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Gray Violiner

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  1. I could see this going both ways, actually. My first inclination would be to say that adults will stick it out because they have chosen to take lessons, chosen to practice, they paid for their instruments with their hard earned money and pay for their own lessons. The flip side of course is the occasional case where an adult gets into learning the violin, finds it does in fact require a goodly bit of time that they may not have anticipated. Depending on their age and circumstance, things like having children can get in the way, divorce can get in the way any number of "adult" situations can drain one's time away, forcing one to quit. I think the difference between your adult "drop-out" and your child drop-out is that with adults it's external factors. With kids, it's lack of interest, desire or preference for other activities (video games, sports, etc). I've stuck it out for almost 12 years now, starting at age 39. There have been plenty of distractions, but never enough to get me to quit. Having rosin dust up your nose is a hard habit to break.
  2. quote: Originally posted by: Bremkins which reduce the adrenaline responsible for nervousness level. Same for chocolate bars. Not with chocolate! Chocolate has caffeine, not to mention refined sugars. Talk about the wrong kind of buzz before a performance. Are you maybe thinking about how chocolate replicates the same chemical reaction in the brain as being in love? That reminds me, I need to go get a box of Godvias.
  3. quote: Originally posted by: Bremkins Whats strange is thast i didnt know bout the whole wheat bread. What are its properties? Any type of whole wheat product contains tons of B vitamins (magnesium in particular has calming properties) that have calming effects. You can imagine having bananas, whole wheat toast and chamomille tea would put you to sleep under normal circumstances. Combine the three when you are potentially/probably anxious and it's a nice soothing little cocktail. The added bonus is it helps nervous stomachs, for those plagued with that misery. Thankfully that's never come up in my case (pun regrettably intended).
  4. I'm from the "Just Do It" school of hard knocks when it comes to overcoming stage fright. No matter how prepared you are, the first few times in front of an audience is pretty scary. We all want approval and fear rejection. That's basically what's swimming in the back of all our brains. As you get more and more experience under your belt, it can still be daunting, but you learn your own little quirks and how to deal with them. I'd be willing to bet that every person on this board has some type of "pre-performance" rituals they go through whether they are amateur or professional players. Mine is a light meal of whole wheat bread, sliced bananas and chamomille tea around an hour before performance. I never practice the day of a performance and when I get to where I'm playing, I go off to myself with my violin and play a couple of slow, easy fiddle tunes to get me "in the zone." It mostly works. Or as I tell so many people: No matter what happens, the sun WILL come up in the morning.
  5. quote: Originally posted by: nickia good news or bad news my teacher just told me that I have to play the 1st violin part with her student in the recital in late june. I'm so scared because I can never play a piece without obvious mistakes or stops The most important performance tidbit my teacher has taught me is to never stop no matter what. Burps and all, keep going. Air bow if you have learned the fine are of "fake-e-oso" and if not, learn to fake it while you get your stuff together. If you should get lost, jump in at the very first opportunity and keep it moving. I've gotten lost during performances, followed her advice and it works just fine. Most of the time the audience just thinks your music has a rest if you stop, so no biggie! The second thing is to always, always to bow to your audience when you finish a piece. It makes me INSANE the number of student performances I attend (being a member of several music organizations locally) where the student plays, finishes and just walks off WHILE the audience is clapping. How rude! Bowing isn't a sign of arrogance. It's acknowledging your audience and showing that you appreciate them for listening (burps and all).
  6. quote: Originally posted by: nickia This piece is frustrating to me because I have been playing it for 4 months and it sounds awful I've been at both parts off and on for over four YEARS and still sound awful (to my ear anyway).
  7. Any kicking fiddle tune always gets 'em going! ;-) Definitely wear the flowered scrubs. This IS for psychiatric research.
  8. quote: Originally posted by: lupe0824 I'm still pretty new at the violin. I'm on suzuki 2. But I love this song. Will it be too early for me to try and learn this song.I know its for two violins, but still want to learn it. I'm still in first position and don't know vibrato yet. Any suggestions? Or should I wait? Definitely too soon, but work hard because it's a total BLAST to play!! Also, typically you learn the second violin part first, then later move on to the first violin part as it's more difficult. quote: And another question. In the movie, Music of the heart, Did they actually play it? Absolutely, though it's not all the original violinists from the documentary on which MOTH is based on (Small Wonders ). Joshua Bell was probably still in training undies at the time of the original concert! Edit note: My personal favorite version of the Bach Double for listening purposes is Itzak Perlman and Isaac Stern's. The energy of that one is palpable, but the tempo isn't as ridiculously fast as too many other versions I've heard.
  9. Oh! Just remembered another (also qualifies under the "stupid pet tricks" category). Set your violin/viola next to a CD player and play some music with particularly intense bass tones (Beethoven's 5th?). Hold it up by the scroll only and put your hands lightly on different parts of the violin's body feeling the reverb from the CD in the wood. Various instruments, tones, notes, etc. are reflected in the vibrations as well. Don't ask me to explain the physics of it, I just think it's cool. Yes, I'm entirely too easily amused!
  10. I'm not sure if this one qualifies as the sort of trick you are looking for, but when I was a beginning shifter, my teacher showed me how to make "ghost" noises. You probably know what I mean but if not (or for anyone else that doesn't), it's simply running your finger lightly up and down the violin strings (hitting the various harmonics) at differing speeds while bowing. I always got a kick out of that and I was in my early 40's at the time. Hmm.... Your kids may be too sophisticated for this one. Maybe it's just a trick that appeals to old geezers!
  11. I use Zyex on my violin with the Kaplan E string (love that one), so when my husband took up the viola I put a set of Zyex on the viola. So much nicer!
  12. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I despise bid sniping programs! To me, it's something akin to cheating. I've lost SO many things over the years because of those wretched programs. Among other things, you're sitting there as the high bidder, have your max bid in place and are clicking away on the reload button in the ending seconds thinking you've got the item, then at that last millisecond, *POOF* someone has set up a bid sniping program so you don't even get a chance to raise your bid. Grr! Frankly I hate the whole auction part of eBay. I'd rather pay a bit more and use the Buy It Now option than suffer auctions.
  13. quote: Originally posted by: Steve_W But what if you play with piano accompaniment, or with other equal-tempered instruments? Think back 200-250 years. Where were these wonder tuners then? How do you suppose Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, [insert favorite composer from said time frame] managed to write music without these wonder machines? How do you suppose those musicians in that era played said music in tune? Play with a piano, tune to the piano. It's not a hard concept. At least not until the left brain tries to take over.
  14. I'm glad my teacher taught me to tune by ear and hear an A in my head. Glancing at all the stuff in this thread is like trying to keep up in physics class. I'd rather play music instead.
  15. quote: Originally posted by: DR. S I thought he was banned from the board. He certainly got into some rows with other posters. The Doc wins the door prize. I had been away from forums completely several years ago. At the time I left, it was A. Dean's glory days. I came back at the end of the HKV saga. The literal end since he was in fact, banned shortly after that.
  16. That's just my two cents worth, but like I said Yuen, what do I know?
  17. I've never owned a tuner nor do ever plan to own one. If a student doesn't learn to hear that A in their heads and tune from there, I can't imagine ever learning to play in tune. I've seen too many reasonably advanced string players hauling their electronic tuners to gigs and it DRIVES ME NUTS!!! But hey, what do I know?
  18. quote: Originally posted by: solveg I would have like to have heard Hendrix play the viola. If you ever get a chance to see Mark Wood perform with his Viper, you'll get a decent idea of what it might have been like.
  19. quote: Originally posted by: allegro We met Vadim GLuzman as well about 2 years ago and he actually took him Strad out and showed us - of course we were not allowed to touch it but who cares, it was fun to see a real strad, played by Vadim. He was really a nice guy too. He played with the Charlotte Symphony last fall. We didn't stick around after the concert, but I looked up his website the next day or so and sent him a short note telling him how much we enjoyed his performance (on said Strad). Within 24 hours, I got the most wonderful personal reply from him. Very classy act, Mr. Gluzman. I hope to hear him again (and told him so).
  20. quote: Originally posted by: outside I just measured my fingers which I have always considered standard and I realize that you three have very small hands. It seems like those sort of stretches could hurt over time, I know this will seem a bit crazy but what if you switch to a 3/4. There are beautiful 3/4 instruments that have great tone and you could probably find one for much less $$ then anything comprable in a full size. I doubt if people can tell the difference easily because I often hear the question, "Is that a 3/4?" and if it were obvious they would not be asking. This thread is after my own heart for a lot of reasons. Back in college I took a guitar class for one of my electives. I always wanted to play acoustic guitar. I found out in a hurry that my hands had other ideas. I don't remember anything about the guitar except there was one chord (can't recall it now) that involved a wicked stretch that I couldn't get to save my soul. Nearly 20 years later, I started needing an artistic outlet and the violin came into my life. Naive me thought since the neck was so small that my little fingers wouldn't be an issue. Suffice it to say I learned in a hurry that in many ways, violin finger stretches are worse than guitar chords!! I have noticed over time that the spread of my left hand is about an inch longer than the right, so I suppose I've made some progress in that regard. Frankly I wonder how people like Perlman can play with his fat little sausage fingers, especially high in the fingerboard with notes so close together, but obviously he does it quite well! Someone else suggested I get a 3/4 violin but I'm SO attached to my Scott Cao that it would take some doing (theft?) to get me on another instrument. I truly feel that switching chinrests is the solution I've been looking for all these years though. My teacher noticed a huge improvement at my first lesson I had after I installed it. Joan, mine is the Ohrenform model. Here's a pic of an ebony one (mine's boxwood)
  21. I'll be interested to see the comments on this. My hands are exactly the same measurements!! I don't know if this will help you out, but if your arms are equally as short as your fingers, try what I did recently (THANKS TO GEORGE BEHARY!): I got an over-the-tailpiece chinrest. Doesn't seem like that would make my violin so much easier to play, but holy cow what a difference!!! I'm not working nearly as hard now on pretty much everything. By the way, I'm the same age as you, Joan.
  22. I had been playing around 2 1/2 years when my teacher told me she would be taking the summer off from teaching. I knew I'd never last the summer without lessons so I found another violin teacher for that period of time. For me, it was very helpful on a lot of levels. I enjoyed having another violinist's perspective on teaching, my playing and it was fascinating to see another person's approach to teaching. I came away from that brief summer with some valuable skills that I still utilize today. Thankfully my teacher has never taken any more long breaks because I adore her, but it's always helpful to experience another teacher. Going out on your own at your stage of learning the violin could be a bit hazardous to my way of thinking in that it's so easy to unintentionally develop bad techniques and far too difficult to undo them.
  23. I'm not one of them, but there are plenty of experts here that can answer your question (though my inclination is to say fake), but I was wondering if you had gotten it yet. How does it play? Do you like it? It looks like a nice violin whether it's a Vuillaume or a "Joe Schmo" and for what you paid, it seems a decent violin for the price. I'd be curious to hear what our resident experts DO say about this one and very curious to get your feedback on how it plays.
  24. Lupe0824 there is an entire forum dedicated to eBay auctions. Why not put your queries like this over there so we can all make use of that board? Just a polite suggestion.
  25. quote: Originally posted by: falstaff The Guy Lombardo story may be true. It doesn't make it any less cruel that the results were spectacular. My new mantra: "Anecdotal evidence is not sufficient to alter policy." I'm sure we can all find instances where pushy parents got results that ended up being laudable. Doesn't mean being pathologically controlling of a child can therefore be considered good parenting. We are on the same page with that one, Falstaff! My first reaction to that scenario was that if Mrs. Lombardo were living in 2006 and pulled that, Guy would be taken away by Social Services, placed in a foster home and Mrs. Lombardo would be in jail for child abuse.
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