Greg F.

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  1. Regarding screws, are older ones generally coarser thread than newer ones? Or is coarser more a sign of handmade versus machine made? Or does it mean nothing?
  2. This page is from the 1912 JTL catalog as reproduced on Roland Terrier's excellent web site. The adjuster shown therein has a very similar end to the 3rd adjuster above, although the threads do not extend as close to the opposite end. Does it mean anything? Beats me. http://www.luthiers-mirecourt.com/thibouville_1912_066.jpg
  3. Your opinion on the threads of adjuster 1 are the kind of help, though I assume are not conclusive, certainly can be an aid in identifying factory bows. Thanks.
  4. On characteristic that is mentioned often is the presence or absence of pins on the adjuster (which, of course, are easily changed). Here is a pic of some adjusters that were handy. Top was found with what I believe is a Japanese bow (pinned), middle was found loose and looks to be silver (pinned), and the bottom is from the bow above (no pin). Just something for comparison.
  5. This bow is being discussed elsewhere and it was suggested that I had hijacked that thread (which was not my intention). So anyway, one reader asked to see the head. Here are more pictures. I realize that it's not a rare or valuable bow (although from my perspective $200 isn't cheap...which is not to say that this one is worth such), but as a newbie I'm trying to get a better idea of how to identify bows by their likely place of manufacture. It's been mentioned that some of the "diagnostics" are muddled, especially in the 20th century, but I would hope that there is something one can go on.
  6. Regarding pinned adjusters, should one, in general, set these aside as possibly French? I have one such on what looks to be a very low end Japanese bow (based on the wood as there is no marking) and another loose silver one that I can't recall where it came from. Should I save them for another day (bow)?
  7. FWIW, the frog looks like a good fit to the stick. On the slide is what looks like "IIV" while on the stick is "VII".
  8. Martin, Thank you for your helpful insights. Here are some additional pictures. The end metal part of the adjuster was loose from the bow when I got it and (gasp!) I glued it in place. The other metal ring on the adjusted appears to have a line that looks like it might have been soldered. There are no pins in the adjuster. In a previous thread, the wood for the bow was identified as amourette. Greg
  9. This is off the topic of this bow, but can any of the knowledgeable members help me understand what to look for in bow identification, at least as regards factory bows? If nothing else, can, for example, a frog help to id a possible JTL (or French) bow from a German one? Here is a frog that perhaps can be compared and contrasted with the one above. All my bows are cheapies, so I would assume it is a factory product. Thoughts on country or region of manufacture? Or is such not possible for factory bows. Thanks in advance. P. S. Please spare me the answer: read a dozen books and spend years looking at bows, or else read years of old MN threads. What is the point of a message board like this if you can't get some hints/helps/ideas (even if an incomplete set) from knowledgeable persons online?
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    bow wood id

    FWIW, above are some outdoor pics of the bows (should be in the same order). As for how they play, I'm a beginner and can only say that 1-3 give a fuller sound (to my ear) than 4, but all are better than most of my others (some of which are decidedly "flat" or dull). Thanks for the help with the id.
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    bow wood id

    Wondering what the wood is on some of my cheapie bows. fiddlecollector id'd the top one as amourette previously, and would appreciate knowledgeable opinions on the others. Thanks in advance. The two pics are of the same bows with different brightness.
  12. Found a similar (not identical but note the adjuster) looking bow in a 1908 Sears catalog that mentions an "extra wide frog". No reason given for why.
  13. Just wondering how people define a "better old bow" that is not "top of the line"? Must it be a "collectible" single maker bow with silver or gold fittings (regardless of how it might "play") or are there any old factory bows that would qualify? Perusing some of the old catalogs, such as JTL, they offered bows for 40 cents up to $42 with everything (a dizzying variety) in between. Some nickel mounted bows of snakewood, etc., were priced in the $4-6 range (no small sum in the 1880s for a "luxury item" when a worker for ordinary wages might make $1-2 per day). Would such qualify as a potential "better" bow or must such be pernambuco with silver or gold? Did the old factories (in the 19th and early 20th century) have better access to large quantites of better bow wood than is available today?
  14. My oops! It only occurred to me later that "VD" was, perhaps, not a "proper" abbrev. Apologies.
  15. VD has provided an excellent detailed analysis, but, generally, if you mention violin and ebay in the same post most MN'ers will tell you that have a "German/Saxon/Markie" instrument because, evidently, no violins appearing there were made elsewhere...unless recently in China.
  16. I put it all back together (after a minor bit of straightening, etc.) with new hair and the bow seems to give a better sound than most of my other cheapies. Overall playing weight is about 63.2g. I plan to add a thumb leather but no wire. It's especially neat to have the wood identified by a very knowledgeable member. Thanks for the replies.
  17. The wood on this bow looked reasonably nice to my eyes (but all I have to compare it with are my "collection" of inexpensive students bows) so I was wondering if any bow aficionados have a thought or two on rough era and country of manufacture. It weighs about 58.5 g (with frog and all the bits present, but there is no wrap, hair or thumb leather). Does heavy equate to a cheap student bow? It measures (end-to-end without the adjuster) 727 mm. It is round and the wood is rather dark. There are some areas where what looks like darker vertical lines are present but such do not extend for the length of the stick (imitation snakewood?). There is a "IIV" on the slide and a "VII" on the stick. My plan to make it usable again in any case. Thanks in advance.
  18. I won't hold that against you; some of my friends collect clocks. BTW, there is a "von" among my German ancestors but no "van".
  19. Carl, Based on my newbie reading of your posts I thought you might be Russian, but I guess you're not telling (had to think for a second about which "you're" there). I won't bore you or anyone with my own background other than to say I live in God's country (Colorado). I find your (one of those words again) posts to be informed, well written, opinionated, thought provoking and a bit (a little of an understatement) priggish at times. From all that has been written in this post it seems the consensus is that the OP should try violins at a shop and purchase one there, although I chose the ebay route when upgrading my son's instrument. I am very familiar with ebay, though not as a violin dealer, and have to question how much someone who writes "eBay is a place were crooks hide. eBay's reson d'etre is to unload stuff which can't be sold in any other way" actually knows about the venue. If ones believes this is universally true then I doubt that they "religiously" follow the offerings there and, thus, have no idea of the full range of goods available: fake to awful to good to quite extraordinary. Maybe things are different with violins, but in my own collecting/buying/selling area of antique watches there are many good and even exceptional buys to be made. Lots-o-stuff sold on ebay is "fresh" to the market having never passed through the hands of a dealer or collector and so the potential for the occasional treasure exists. But you do have to enjoy the hunt. Sincerely, Greg
  20. Gotta love the internet. How did we ever live without it?
  21. Martin, Thanks for the reply. For a newbie like me could you point out what makes this look like a 1920s or later violin? Also, what is the purpose of a throwaway label? Or am I misunderstanding your point? Greg