Greg F.

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  1. Take what I say with a huge grain of salt, as I am no expert.  But the brand looks suspiciously like that seen on many bows offered on ebay that are of recent Chinese manufacture, though the frog might be older than the bow proper.  Perhaps one of our more knowledgeable members will chime in.


  2. I'm no expert violin wise.  I'm not even a "talented" amateur violin wise.  But I've been buying (and selling) on ebay since 1997.  Anyone who thinks there aren't treasures to be found at both fair and ludicrously cheap prices on ebay is a person who doesn't follow the venue regularly.  My best buy was a French bow for $60 that brought $8000 at auction (it sold to dealer).  I still have 6 or 8 silver mounted bows in excellent condition that cost a fraction of what any shop would charge.  But that's just my experience.  Ebay is the greatest thing since sliced bread, collecting wise. 


  3. Yes, it's possible to find a good violin at auction.  Yes, it will probably cost something extra to get it setup properly.  Yes, if you do your homework, it will end up costing less than if you bought the same instrument from a shop.  After all, dealers are regular auction buyers (and they too have to spend time and/or money fixing it up "right") and they're in it to make a buck (or two).  It all comes down to your comfort level.


  4. I was walking to the store this morning and ran into a friend of mine who, knowing that I like bows, showed me a few that he had recently been given.  He gave me a couple, one of which (branded the ubiquitous Bausch) looked to have nice wood.  Might it be pernambuco?

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  5. 7 hours ago, rudall said:

    How would that work if they are both lousy players?

    Andrew

    Neither looks like a great bow but they don't look like total trash either.  I have about 40 functional bows (out of about 150-200 that I've sampled).  Most are older wooden and fully nickel mounted.  Few are truly garbage for an intermediate (at best) fiddle player like myself.  Several are on loan to local fiddle players who like them better than their carbon fiber Codas and other bows.  I have about 6 or 7 silver mounted ones, most of which perform better.  So in my experience, an older fully nickel mounted bow made of decent wood and no problems is likely to be a decent intermediate bow if it has good hair.

    But this is just my experience as a rank amateur.   I make no claims to be an expert.

     


  6. For collectibles, ebay is the greatest thing since sliced bread.  But even bread gets moldy.

    If you're looking for a bow as a "tool" then by all means avoid ebay.  Go to your local shop and pay full retail (or near it) for the bow that fits your needs.  But if you enjoy the hunt then there's no place like ebay.  Bargains are to be had but knowledge is king (or at least prince).

    As for the bows you've shown, nothing strikes me as special about them (but I'm way way far from an expert) but I suspect that you could get them for less than the price of a rehair.  And if they both have decent hair then you come out ahead.


  7. 2 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said:

    Neusilber, or Nickel Silver, Augentan etc. has no silver at all. The English recepie here is 18% Nickel, 55% Copper and 27% Zinc

    My mistake.  A typo.  It is meant to read "nickel silver (an alloy often having about 20% nickel)".  Otherwise my "calculation" would be meaningless.


  8. 3 hours ago, Blank face said:

    Reg. Bausch family shop, even the Grünke book isn't really clear if Ludwig Bausch himself made bows in the Leipzig shop ever, but it's a well documented fact (by a personal letter) that he oredered bows from elsewhere, the best quality evidently made by Knopf family, but most probably others by different makers. The death of Heinrich Knopf is described as the "end of the classic Bausch bow".

    In 1874 the business was taken over by Adolf Paulus (not to be confused with Otto) till it was closed in 1908. So it's obvious that a 1905 offered bow hasn't anything to do with Bausch.

     

    This is an interesting bit from an 1892 catalog.  Note that both "imitation" and "genuine" Bausch bows are being offered.  IMO, a reasonable interpretation is that the "imitation" ones were anyone's bows that were simply stamped "Bausch" and the "genuine" ones came from the Bausch firm (whether a Bausch made them or not).  Or maybe it's all meaningless catalog hype?img493.thumb.jpg.27578551e4b2af30be1ffdafb71272b4.jpg


  9. 2 hours ago, jacobsaunders said:
    Should one read the relavant literature, rather than violin-making lore, one will discover that:
    "After 1830...nickel silver prices had fallen to four shillings per POUND."
    Which refutes ad absurdum the above Quote that "this new metal...was at least as expensive as silver at the time"
     
     

    An Encyclopedia of the History of Technology, p.98

    edited by Ian McNeil

     

    Not exactly an "ad absurdum".  A back of the envelope calculation:  The same source notes that in 1824 nickel silver (an alloy often having about 20% silver) was being marketed for 3 thalers per pound.  It's a good guess that most of this price was from the nickel rather than the copper, so let's guesstimate that pure nickel came in at not much less than 15 thalers per pound.  How about we go with 14.  There are about 14.5 troy ounces in a pound.  A thaler had roughly as much silver as a US dollar of the time (maybe 10% more?).   A US silver dollar had roughly $1 worth of silver in it.  So nickel (in 1824) comes out to be about the same price as silver ($1 an ounce).  And maybe it still was in 1827?


  10. 1 hour ago, MeyerFittings said:

    The average salary in 1905 was $300 per year. That is probably a better mark up indicator than inflation. Is nickel somehow less effective as a material than silver for say a ferrule or a button? Other than appearance. I have a lot of old pre 1965 quarters which were 90% silver would they be worth rolling out and used in a bow?

    I find the following link to be a more interesting currency converter:

    http://www.historicalstatistics.org/Currencyconverter.html


  11. Here's another old page (from 1915).  Prices go from 55 cents to $29 (the later would get you into the range of some well known French makers).  One of the issues with these old catalogs is figuring out if the prices are retail, wholesale or something like "keystone" (usually twice wholesale but not always).

     

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  12. Neat old catalog page.  I find these very interesting as they give direct evidence of the bow market, prices, etc., way back when.   Besides those reproduced in the Ehrhardt books there are others to be found in various places on the internet.  Sometimes the period prices of "generic" silver mounted bows can approach those for makers whose bows command 5 figures today.  


  13. 20 minutes ago, fiddlecollector said:

    Dont know about martin but i would just try a little mineral spirit (not alcohol) and see if it works, But only gently as silk /tinsel is very fragile stuff. Dont use any type of metal polish as alot of the tinsel covering on the these type of threads are silver plated copper ,metal polish will quickly remove the plating and leave it copper coloured which you dont want.

    Thanks


  14. 3 hours ago, martin swan said:

    Really not the case. An original lapping is kind of essential for the "collector" market, and it's a big plus on any bow, assuming it's usable and in good condition.

    Martin,

    How would you recommend cleaning the lapping on this bow?  I don't want to go too crazy but it could use a little.

    Greg