cheleno

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  1. It's been 7 years since I first posted to this site. Some of you will remember the Klotz cello in need of restoration. The restoration began approx 1 year ago by Paul Perley. It should be ready in approx 45 days. We had to replace the bottom rib, I have it for future restoration. When it's all said and done restoration plus cost of instrument should amount to $17,000. I will post pictures soon
  2. Thanks for the imput ibukard. Restoration is waiting on the shops to take on the tasks at hand. I am in line probably start next month
  3. Hello again, I came across this Aegidius Klotz cello of 1795. I'm trying to do some leg work myself to try and pin a possible maker to my cello. I'm not savy in these things, what are your opinions. Were these "f" holes and scrolls cut by the same hand. I know my cello was made during the later part of the 18th century, possible beginning of first decade of 19th. Aegidius Klotz died approx 1807. I respect your imput, its always a learning experience for me.
  4. Hello and thanks for this information. Is this something you would do. I would rather have this job done than just another "band aid" type repair. Would you be interested in doing this job if so, what might I expect to pay. I'd have the current repair person remove the rib and I'd sent it to you if this is possible Thanks Harry
  5. Chet, I am a friend of a violin maker here in California. Scott has factories in China that supply the U S with instruments of varying quality. Once a year in March he travels to Europe for wood to supply his business. His better instruments are made of wood thats been aged at least 5 years. I commissioned a cello from him once. I wanted the back to be made of poplar. It seems I waited for ever before that piece was ready for construction. What I'm getting at is this. How abundant was cured wood available for instrument making in the 18th and 19th centuries. Those guys were also running a bu
  6. I want to thank all of you who posted responses to my inquiries about my cello. Many of you said Mittenwald late 18th century Klotz school, congratulations you are probably right . Peter Radcliff of Radcliffiddles did a Dendrochronolgy test and the results are as follows: 1. " The treble side on the most promising picture I have a strong date of the latest ring at 1785, which is a bit later than I thought, but sometimes, the condition makes an instrument look older than it is. So realistically, your cello, considering the narrow growth near the centre joint, will have lost several growth
  7. Well thanks to all that attepted a translation of the writing found inside my cello top. A guy at work who at one time in was in U S Army intelligence said he's rusty but came up with the following "Sergei Buyevski" "Cracks on upper deck and обачай фўтор on upper deck" "Moscow 1937" Nothing special here unless someone can shed light on Sergei Buyevski in Moscow
  8. I hope someone can decipher the writing inside this instrument. It probably only I'D's the repair person. Looks to me like a slavic language, Its just another piece of the puzzle I'm trying to put together.
  9. Thanks Ken I agree with your assessment. It is my intention to bring this cello back to playing condition. I'd like to do that while trying to maintain its original character. We'll see if it can be accomplished
  10. Thanks Iburkard, I don't uderstand the comment at the end of your post. "Please be considerate" Forums are just that, forums. I consider the folks in Maestronet pretty savy. I appreciate their imput. But they respond and comment if they like. My posting or anyone else doing same doesn't prevent others from participating if they desire to. I'd say just ignor a post, question or whatever like the vast majority does. I think this is what you are referring to when you say "please be considerate".
  11. Thanks for your post. Ken is old school and hes charging by the hour. He said to me this one area is the most difficult and would take longer to repair. He suggested originally, that we replace the whole bottom rib and keep the original for later replacement. That would mean more money. I trust him whole heartedly. I know the stuff works but hes never used it. I put this out there to see if any of you have had any experience with the stuff. I think it will work.
  12. This is regarding that Klotz like cello again. Ken Su in San Mateo , Ca. will be doing the restoration. The cello has a large piece of fabric like material glued along the inside of the bottom rib. This was the method used when "repairing" the cracks seen in the picture. Ken said the fabric has to be removed to do the job correctly using wood cleets instead. Another luthier said he would apply hot water to soften it off. This scared me because what will constant exposure to water do to the already fragile wood. Ken said he will carefully carve it off. My question is this: I've worked on many
  13. Thanks for taking the time to give me your detailed response to my inquiry. I understand that Klotz cellos are rare. I've looked online for any information regarding Klotz cellos. There isn't much there. There is a refrence of one belonging to Spanish cellist Josetxu Obregon. He owns a Sebastian Klotz whose scroll is not original. My cello accordng to Ken Su of Ken Su Violins in San Mateo is well made. He looked at the nuances of the instrument and said "made by a steady hand", "this cello not made by apprentice". When comparing my cello scroll with the "attributed" to Sebastian Klotz cello
  14. Thanks you're right. Maybe value certainly not a specific maker will be determined. I'm hoping for possible year and estimated value
  15. Thanks fro the reply. Yes I would be willing to pay for the appraisal. I do want a written report. I think this instrument is special. Roland Feller lately has no time . I took it to hima nd he said" Nice cello in its day, needs much repair" He didnt have the time to restore it. I didnt bother to ask about appraisal. His shop was full of people waiting their turn and he was sort of stressed. I'd be willin to send to N Y , someone said best places are there. You have someone in mind
  16. Many of you have seen my cello, its that Klotz? looking instrument. I wasnt selected among those given tickets to the upcoming Antiques Road Show thats coming to my home town, San Jose,Ca. I was sure looking forward to that. Does anyone have an idea where I can get a decent value appraisal of the cello. I've contacted Butterfield and Bonhams out of San Francisco. Apparently one can set up an appointment to have them appraise your instrument. Ken Su of San Mateo currently has the instrument in his shop. He says I should show it to an appraiser with the top off. He said the inside can tell
  17. cheleno

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    Hello do you agree that a one piece bottom rib with an inlet saddle is characteristic of Mittenwald cellos. I know that Stainer used this technic and he taught Matthius Klotz I think. This brings up an interesting question, what is it that an "expert" uses to determine pedigree. If the style is used by many and there is no label , I guess my cello will probably remain unnamed. This is very probable but are there any nuiances by makers when making an instrument that will truly set them apart from others. What is used
  18. cheleno

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    Hi do you recall if that Klotz cello that you restored has a one piece bottom rib with an inlet saddle. Apparently this is characteristic of Stainer cellos who taught Matthius Klotz the trade.
  19. Jesse the cello I have has a one piece bottom rib , and inlet saddle, Do you recall ifthe Klotz you worked on had these characteristics
  20. cheleno

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    Thank you all for the interest and opinions regarding this instrument. Tarisio has a Sebastian Klotz 3/4 cello going on the auction block next month. It has a certification by W. E. Hill & Sons (June 25, 1947). The auction reads, "attributed to" so who knows. The scroll has a high cut similar to mine, but mine is "better executed". (Ratcliffiddles) Most of you that responded to my post have said that my cello is probably of the Klotz school, German at best. I'm wondering if anyone knows if a Matteus Klotz cello is out there somewhere. As I understand it Sebastian and his father were the he
  21. Thank you all for the interest and opinions regarding this instrument.
  22. Hello I read your response regarding Danish oil. I have a cello with a worn finish. I was thinking of using a little "Old Fashion Scratch Remover" After reading your comment I thought maybe a little Danish oil would work better or the same. I have some walnut tinted Danish oil in my garage. What do you think
  23. Thanks Claudio I appreciate your thoughts. Most seem to think that the cello belongs to the Klotz family. Next month a Sebastian Klotz cello goes on the auction block at Tarisio. The scroll of that cello is similar but my scroll is "better executed" as put by Radclifffiddles. The more I compare them the more I agree with him. A more skillful hand seems to have made my scroll. Do you agree that its a Klotz, The scroll on the right is my scroll.