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  1. quote: Originally posted by toc: You guys amaze me. I think I could build a functional human being quicker than I could build a violin. Assuming you could find a willing, female partner... you are right. I warn you though ,the cost is much, much higher! I'd stick to violin making.
  2. Thank you all for sharing your thoughts on this topic. I was particularly intrigued by Mr. Williams comment that the "birds eye" look is not the result of knots. I assumed that was exactly what the 'eyes' were and can't imagine what other growth method would result in the look. I had not considered the potential for strength impact until Donuels comment about his cello and do understand the he did not specifically indicate the cracking was due to the birds eye maple. It is worth consideration though. Haven't decided if I like the look or not but it certainly is a bit different and although I am a traditionalist at heart I do enjoy having something just slightly different that adds that somewhat unique visual flavor to an instrument. Thanks again to all who responded and if anyone has a bit more insight into the nature of the 'eyes' I would be interested in hearing from you.
  3. Anyone have any specific thoughts on the use of bird's Eye maple in violin making versus more traditional flamed/non-flamed clean maple? I like the look but wonder if the 'eyes', which I believe are basically branch pieces, would have a deadening effect on the sound. Would like to hear others opinions.
  4. If, as Al's message indicates, the individual is a convicted con-artist, should ebay owners be notified? Seems like the right thing to do if someone has validated information. I'm not sure a maestronet posting from an unregistered user named 'Al' qualifies as 'validated', but I get the impression there are others here who have a bit of background knowledge. One would think the bidders would be grateful.
  5. Shadi, It would likely be far more helpful to those trying to help if you offer a bit more detail regarding what you are looking for. You provided an example which appears well beyond the needs of the amateur player you claim to be. Of course, an amateur driver doesn't need a Dodge Viper, but if money is plentiful it becomes a matter of satisfying ones personal desires. If you are playing in a local 'home town' style orchestra, you certainly do not need to risk $15,000, even if the violin is as described. Violins found in the 2-4 thousand range, offered by prominent makers, will typically satisfy the needs of advanced players and certainly your average amateur. Think of it like golf clubs. Having a great set may take a stroke or two off your game, but you'll still be average. On the other hand, a master will beat you with the worst set of clubs. In the case of the violin, I truly believe the sound produced has far more to do with the skill of the player than the instrument. I have a wonderful instrument that frankly, sounds rather poor to me when I play. I've had others who vastly exceed my skill play my instrument. It serves to remind me that the instrument is capable of far more than my poor skill can extract. It also serves as a reminder that buying a more expensive instrument will not compensate for, nor circumvent the years of practice ahead of me. You asked about the gliga and sofia models I mentioned earlier. Gliga violins are from the Vasile Gliga shop in Romania. Christian Gliga (I believe he is Vasiles son) runs a web site offering several models (http://www.violinslover.com/). Prices run from a few hundred well up into the thousands. You'll see many, many recommendations for these instruments if you search for the word gliga on maestronet. You'll also find simliar comments about the sofia, particularly the grand models. the SHAR web site (http://www.sharmusic.net/home.htm) offers these instruments. A nice Guarneri replica runs about $3,000. A Master artist outfit can be had for well under $4,000. I wish you well in your search and hope you find what makes you happy. [This message has been edited by ShadowHawk (edited 03-31-2001).]
  6. I'm inclined to concede anyones right to their preferential purchase choices but this seems to be a rather expensive risk for someone who characterizes themselves as an amateur player. Granted, there are so called "amateurs" whose skill is a horsehair shy of the skill necessary to earn a living as a professional. It seems that a modern contemporary of known origin and potentially similar tonal quality would be a less risky venture. I've seen the dealer mentioned above offer instruments on ebay in the 15-20 thousand range. Hardly the kind of fair the average amateur would take seriously. In fact, I don't believe I've ever seen one actually find a buyer. Sofia, Gliga, stringworks... hmmm, seems a good selection of known quantities from which the amateur can safely choose without the risk or expense of a suspicious composite. Good luck and best regards.
  7. Interesting thread and timely in my case. I was examining a Vasile Gliga violin on ebay. Most of the gliga's found on ebay are from Christain Glisa "violinslover" web site but this one is from "cleffhead". My question would be one more of personal aesthetics but I am interested on peoples view regarding quality. "CleffHead" shows the violin before and after polishing. The polish appears heavy and gives that high-gloss look of heavy varnish. Assuming it is just polish, what would your take be on the visual quality and the impact on tone. My current violin looks much more like the unpolished version. I like this very much and am very pleased with the tone. I tend to care less for the high-gloss polished version. URL is below. Thoughts? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?V...indexURL=0&rd=1 [This message has been edited by ShadowHawk (edited 03-30-2001).]
  8. Fascinating... where I was raised we called it "The bird". sorry... couldn't resist.
  9. Fascinating thread. I'm a bit confused about the context of Michaels analogy. I understood Barrys comment to imply that the step was a strong hint of a violin being chinese. I also understand that some european makes also have the step. The evidence suggests that the step really can't be used to determine geographical source, but rather, may identify the general "style", as in cremonese. From this we deduce that a violin, made in china, can be indentified as a cremonese style model, but not necessarily a chinese make. This begs the question, which is more important, the style or the actual geographical location? I suppose where it is made means nothing. After all, I see no reason why a fine Italian maker could not suddenly decide to live in China and make/sell his violins from there while continuing to build in the style of his homeland. Given this, all the value a label can add (assuming any value at all) is the makers name and the style after which the violin was fashioned. The "Made in <insert country>" then has absolutely no bearing on value or style. "Made in Germany" in no way means an instrument any better than one labeld "Made in Bucksnort, Tennessee!". (Yes, there really is such a place . Curiouser and Curiouser but very interesting.
  10. In fair honesty, I was so enraptured by their music that I could not "see" much of anything but the music. It was incredible beyond imagining to enjoy both of these fine musicians.
  11. Wow, three in a row.. but this one is interesting and to Barry. You indicated earlier that a chinese made violin can be identified by a 1 mm step down beneath the nut where the neck "steps down" to the top of the pegbox walls. Examine the european made gliga at this URL. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?V...item=1417629175
  12. Barry, I didn't see it at first but put a magnifier on it under strong light and can see a very tiny, gently sloping step under the nut onto the pegbox walls. I would have never seen this without a magnifying glass. I certianly cannot tell if such a step exists in the photos that Fubbi2 included above. I have to ask... what does the violin you have in your shop go for retail? The tailpiece on mine was already installed when I bought the instrument at the shop, although the owner had two others with more traditional hill tailpieces. They came very close in sound but were not quite as strong. I compared it to several Sandners in the same price range and the chinese model was far better. It even compared well to several Italian models in the shop which cost well over eight thousand. Hope yours plays and sounds as well. [This message has been edited by ShadowHawk (edited 03-25-2001).]
  13. Hmmm... not sure I agree Barry but it's all speculation. I have what I consider to be an excellent chinese violin and your comment caused me to go back and look at my own. I didn't see the 1mm step you referred to. I did notice however that my pegs are not fitted correctly. They are too long and need to protrude a few millimeters beyond the pegbox exit holes. I'll have to correct that. Odd I had not noticed before. Here's mine... actually quite a different instrument than the one shown above so not a good comparison. http://w3.one.net/~gough/violin/ [This message has been edited by ShadowHawk (edited 03-24-2001).]
  14. Mine is a '2000 model from a chinese shop. I purchased in Cincinnati from Jim Johnson at Strings&Things. Beautiful golden brown wood with excellent grain show-thru. Wonderful full sound with incredible projection. A few pics are available at http://w3.one.net/users/gough/violin Oh, and nope, it's not for sale! [This message has been edited by ShadowHawk (edited 03-24-2001).] [This message has been edited by ShadowHawk (edited 03-24-2001).]
  15. I think this will work. Here's a few shots of my violin. You should get a web page of jpg links. Just click each one to see the photo. I didn't want to place all on a single web page to avoid a huge download to someone using 56K dialup. http://w3.one.net/users/gough/violin
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