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  1. Slightly dampen the inside, place it on a flat surface, place a weight just heavy enough to make the edges come down to the surface right on the highest part of the arch. Wait for two days. Every time I've seen such heavy distortion, it was with backs made of one piece, especially with unevenly figured wood. Joined plates seem more stable. Can anyone corroborate that impression?
  2. I agree with the Yita recommendation, but be sure to buy the M20 or T20. Much better Sound than the M/T19 ones. The Setup usually is ok, but a really good Setup with best grade Bridge will improve it still, however, you can wait with that if you are a beginner. You will Need a better set of strings, and the bow that Comes with it is also not good. the cheapest ok bow I know of are carbondix Carbon fibre bows.
  3. Well, actually, originally there existed the viola, which could either be da Gamba or da braccio, designating the Instrument Family. Then the word violino, small viola, came into use for the treble member of the da braccio Family, a word which then spread across Europe. Violone was a big viola and could be da braccio (a violin Family type Instrument, often something like a large Cello and tuned a whole step lower, w hich is what we nowadays refer to a bass violin, but h istorically there was not such a rigid, strict Systematic terminology ), or da Gamba, so a modern double bass is in fact a h
  4. Bass violin is a rather non-specific word used for mainly 8-foot register instruments before the term Violoncello appeared at the end of the 17th century. However, it was not uncommon even in the middle of the 18th century, depending on the language. So any instrument that nowadays called a cello was called a bass violin in earlier days. In other words, it doesn't help with the identification of the instrument. Btw, looking at it again, I doubt the f holes were enlarged.
  5. I just talked to a Violinist who was wildly enthusiastic. Any additional experiences with this since it ws last discussed?
  6. Without other alteration to the design I find them to look totally misplaced on such a model, and the result very ugly!
  7. I would say it is something germanic from the 18th century. Im curious what @jacobsaunders will think of it. A while back we discussed an oversize cello he has in his possession. Is this maybe similar?
  8. Apart from the Wood Import Thing, which I don't think is relevant for the 17th and early 18th century because there was enough Money in Italy at the time, the bow making that is still relevant for players nowadays developed when the glorious times for violin making in Italy were coming to an end, in the latter half or even 25 years of the 18th century. At the end of the 18th century, Italy had diminished as a cultural (an not only that) power, compared to the two centuries before. Before that, Italian bows were not any worse than bows from elsewhere.
  9. And I didn't bid! Is the winner of the auction on this forum?
  10. Well, it is not what I would call an attractive violin. But truth be told, I still have to see the first Yamaha Instrument that wasn't at least ok value for money. So I wouldn't be surprised if it actually is quite passable as a Beginners Instrument, and that their Claims of making a Laminate Sound ok are true.
  11. Wow, thank you for the replies! I see a lot of valueable Information here, but everyone seems to have their own idea About what is easy and what would be best for a beginner. I should have told you a bit more About my experience. I have no experience with oil varnishes at all, but I have some experience with shellac based varnishes on furniture. Mainly with a product that Comes pre mixed in alcohol, bleached or non bleached and with no other additives. I find that when I thin it, I can make rather thin layers and with many applications can achieve a fairly decent film. However, this has
  12. My pupils typically play on rentals until they buy 4/4th cello. With some it takes a bit longer, but usually they start caring about sound while playing a 2/4 cello. I have the impression that, the better the instrument they learn on, the sooner they will start caring about sound. Fractional strings have improved dramatically (larsen, eva pirazzi and even helicore all work well on fractional cellos) , so that in a good case, even 1/8th cellos can have a pleasant, and projecting sound. Recently, the parents of a somewhat advanced student decided to buy a 2/4 size cello instead of renting one, w
  13. I love the new Addition to the description, which I'm not sure I am allowed to Quote here, but LOL! I think it is pure Genius!
  14. 16 years ago I was given a 1977 Hora Musik Instrumentenfabrik Cello, that has a newly made top (old one was crushed to pieces). So it really is the cheapest Kind of Student Instrument. It was originally coated with Nitro varnish (save the newly made top, which was never varnished), and I had the Intension revarnishing it. Taking of the nitro was a big PITA and has taken me, with large interruptions (studies, becoming a Father, buying a house etc etc), 17 years. I've decided now that it is time to clean up and finish the several unfinished Hobby Jobs lying around and want to do the revarnishing
  15. I would say it is a hydrogen-peroxide blondie, orginally a dark brunette. I think it is revarnished, there are some left Overs of dark varnish here and there, and all Things that could be somewhat sharp seem rounded, possibly by sand paper. I'm Voting for a re-built Saxon violin, ca 1860-1910, I find the f holes, in particular the shape of the wings and kidneys to be rather telling. Also, the scroll work, with its 6 o'clock fluting, looks markneukirchen-like to me. However, I'm thrown off by the inlaid saddle which doesn't seem to fit the Picture of a Markneukirchen fiddle. Also, the rib mitr
  16. @Tom Fid you bought this a while back, and I'm very curious about how it Plays and sounds. Could you tell us something About that?
  17. I think the Arpeggione doesn't Need to Sound out of tune. It Comes down to your skills at Tuning. Here is a recording that is not that bad: https://www.allmusic.com/album/der-arpeggione-mw0001856146 I believe there is more Repertoire, somehow I believe I heard Burgmüller wrote some stuff, and I wouldn't hesitate to search out Cello or guitar Music to arrange. If you Play Cello and guitar, or Gamba, I think it can be a fun Project. Also, one can use such an Instrument to accompany others in the way a guitar does. It has its place in history, even if it is obscure, and the Sound is probably
  18. I'm a professional Cellist, mainly active in the HIPP Scene, but I earn a big part of my income through teaching modern Cello. I've recently discovered that I Play a lot better on Cello with a string length that it a Little Shorter than the average 69 CMs, 67 seems ideal. This Cello is just a Little Shorter, seems to have a Little leeway for the Bridge Placement because of the lack of traditional f-holes, and is an authentic old Cello that I could use with gut strings for 19th century Repertoire in a HIPP context, but I think it should be usable with steel for my modern teaching also, so, even
  19. For the amount of Money stated in the estimate, I'd be interested in this pointless Cello. But I can't seem to find out how to Register with tarisio. Can anyone help?
  20. Well, I was assuming it will be used in modern context. If you don't say anything they might assume 430 or 415. Though usually gut strings can handle a half tone higher in pitch without many Problems.
  21. I'm sorry, I have no idea. Maybe tell them These Things were made for gut strings? I think fractional (or any string made for the usual Cello Tuning) size Cello strings are not made for These pitches, and will be varieing too widely in Tension to be well playable.
  22. You can contact a gut string maker (for instance Kürschner, or Aquila, toro, Dlugolecki) directly. If you tell them which pitch and string length, they will calculate the ideal diametre and send you a well adjusted set. Do not forget to mention that you play at a=442 or so. It usually does not cost more.
  23. Recently someone told me his Cello had been described as being approximately 75 to 100 years old, made in northern Germany with flemish design influences. That Sound like complete nonsense to me, and I'm wondering if you agree. What violin making was going on in northern Germany in the interbellum, Maybe the stuff coming from Berlin? And was zum Teufel are flemish design influences?
  24. If you wish to straighten the bridge, the easiest way to do that is by heating it up and then bending it. I'm a cello teacher and have done thatr times on cheap student cellos. One bridge has remained straight for a long time, the others simply were badly made to begin with. What I did was heat the bridge with steam from a water cooker. The main warping occurs between the kidneys and the heart, you want to prevent heating the rest. When the bridge is hot, you can simply bend it by hand. Place the bridge with the flat side on a flat surface to check how well you did, if necessary repeat. Before
  25. Dominants for Cello, highly unusual, not used by anyone anymore. Small Sound, quickly goes dead. Not recommended. The Combo you have on there is Pretty good when you are on a Budget, though Helicore lower strings do have a Shorter life than most other wirecore strings. If you like to try something with a Little less Tension (which is what Dominant would be), try Larsen Magnacore Arioso. Also, the tail piece you are using is heavy and clunky, probably a different one (cheap would be a Wittner Composite or an Akustikus tail piece) will likely improve the Sound quite some. good luck!
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