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  1. Yes, but it is my Impression from my limited experience that in the interbellum the differences started disappearing rapidly and the Saxon was of construction (BOB) and also the improvised was of designing violins (don't have a better way of describing it) was disappearing quickly. (Please correct me if I'm wrong) The scroll already Looks a lot cleaner than anything from before WWI from Markneukirchen, the only Thing that gives it away is the 6 (rather 7 or 8) o'clock stopping of the fluting. The varnishing in Terms of couloring and shading looks rather like I've seen on some good Asschauer W
  2. Mittenwald or not, I believe it looks german from that time frame. As far as can be judged from the pictures, to me it looks like a well made cello, and I think the Price is good for this kind of cello, but not spectacularly so. I work as a cello teacher in Germany and usually have one or two students looking for Cellos in this Price category. Sometimes such Cellos can sound surprisingly good. I actually find it quite attractive, however, I would never ever buy before trying.
  3. I don't think I've evver seen so much wear on a fingerboard!
  4. Maybe a little. But you don't want it to get worse, do you? If it does, it eill be a serious problem, right now it seems like it will be easy to fix. Consider going to another lutier. Unless there is more than meets the eye, this is a relatively simple thing to repair.
  5. I hope I will have helped you find strings you like. There are many different bow types around. The really short ones are usually good for music, where you Need to Retake you bow very often, like French orchestral Music. German and especially italian bows often were longer, so cantabile playing was easier to achieve. Mind you, you can hold a baroque bow very far away from the frog, or actually not that far away. I mainly Play a bow which is an "informed Interpretation" of a bow Held by Boccherini on a painting. It is relatively short and has a high frog, and a very light tip. I hold it practic
  6. Look at the info @stringking. Aquila gives recommendations, and until you develop your own Preference, I'd try out what they recommend as a medium set. All you have to decide it wether you prefer late or early baroque. Everything else is finetuning to your taste and can take place every time you renew your strings. I would recommend as a first improvemet to try a luxline d string from Kürschner, whom you can simply ask for the luxline equivalent of a given bare gut string.
  7. couldnt find the thread regarding the violin strings, so I thought I'd Reply here. Look at this site for good stringing (early vs late baroque stringing advise): https://www.pure-corde-shop.com/Violin-gut-strings-set This seller has the product descriptions from several respected manufacturers all together on one site, which is good for comparison. https://shop.stringking.net/category/violin_strings1 Here in Germany, many use a luxline d string from Kürschner: https://www.kuerschner-saiten.de/einzelsaiten-single-strings/luxline/ I'm a Cellist and mostly use Aquila (is available
  8. I don't think it was a cut down viola, as the arching shape (high, steeply rising with a Long and Broad, relatively flat "Island" in the middle) is very common for that Region, and having a small "Island" on a big top plate would be much more unusual. Another Thing that could be taken as an indication for different makers of top and back plates is the arching, which is very different for top and back. Again, the top seems to follow Vogtland traditions, but the back doesn't at all, which makes mebelieve the top was a later repair done by a better craftsman than the original. I xan v
  9. I'm a Player with an interest in Instruments and do not Claim any of what I have to say has much validity at all. I like to comment only in order to see if there is anything to what I'm thinking. This is a weird violin. I'm wondering wether it may be a Composite Instrument (the replacement of part having taken place Long time ago). It doesn't look nearly as old to me as the Wood is. The f hole shape and the arching have a distinct germanic taste to me, and the method of Building (built on the back) is also consistent with that. The outline, especially of the c bouts is something I'
  10. A friend of mine Needs a new Bridge for his Cello because it has warped and he wants a baroque model. He met up with a lutier who told him he can fit a baroque Bridge, but he will Need to bring buy it himself. As far as I know, usually you'd measure where exactly the bass bar is, look at how the Bridge feet would stand on that ideally, think symetrically and calculate the Bridge feet distance. Now, he doesn't have These skills, so all he could do is measure the distance between the feet of his current Bridge. The Question is: how should he measure it? from the outer Edge of the Bridge foot?
  11. @jezzupe Before the frog had an eyelet and screw, it was just wedged between the hair and the stick, nowadays known as a Clip-in frog to HIPP People. If you don't wedge it in properly, or the Little Ridge on the stick is worn out, it slides out of it, and "jumps" away just like a frog jumps away. Thats where the Name Comes from.
  12. Get a teacher. Ask him/her where to get an instrument.
  13. I recently (thought I) was in the market for a new cello, and talked to the maker of my current cello About getting a slightly smaller cello for the left hand made (68 instead of 69.5 CM Mensur makes a world of a difference to me, but only when playing steel. Gut 69,5 is fine.). He said that he has learned to somewhat manipulate the sound character in certain directions mainly by changing the distance between the f holes, and I believe I recall that he found especially the distance between the upper eyes important. We were Talking About Cellos, ofcourse. F-holes are a very important trait of
  14. all helicore is an ok cheap solution. All Kaplan is also not bad. Crown could also be in that catechory. With exception in particular cases though, these strings will sound less good than the standard Larsen/Spiro combo or the other ones I mentioned (btw I would say spiro Tungsten rather than silver is standard). I would estimate you increase the chance of selling your instrument quickly with other strings. On the other hand, if it is an inbetween solution before buying the perfect strings for it after you tried it out, then they are fine.
  15. NuWell, the forum and the Facebook page are two different things. I can't say I agree with atlvc, and I think the unfriendlienessvwas due to just a fee users, one in particular, that unfortunately were very active. As to the question, every cello is different, and over the last decade many new types were developed, so it is hard to answer the question. Most people still know the larsen solo and spirocore combo., so stringing it with that will make it easier to compare the behavior of the cello. Magnacore and recently magnacore arioso are very popular nowadays, as are perpetual and versum
  16. My vote is a Saxon violin, second half of the 19th century. The wonky ouline looks like made without a mold, the rib corners extend till the plate corners which is consistent with a built on the back method of making. The scroll fluting probably stops at 6 o'clock.
  17. Well first of all, they don't Need to be made from the same type of Wood at all, from a structural Point of view, it is a purely aesthetic consideration. The stiffness of the neck supposedly influences the Sound and playing chacteristics. There are makers that improve the strength of the neck by adding dowels of various possible materials, including Carbon fibre, and report that the Sound and playing characteristics seem to improve. I believe some are here on the board. Stiffer seems better, I believe.
  18. @Jerry Pasewicz and @nathan slobodkin, I think this is highly interesting! I am a professional Player and as you can see from my comments, it is a Nathan sais, that I'm not Always sure what makes a certain Instrument easy to Play and others not. That said, my gut instinct here is with Nathan. I Change the Position of my knees relative to the Cello regularly, Change the length of my end pin regularly, sometimes even during one rehearsal. I also Play baroque Cello without an end pin and have several ways to hold a Cello there. Holding it the same way all the time is in fact not healthy for
  19. Well,this is where it gets interesting! the line (I'm assuming the pencil line) is clearly very tilted towards the c string. The tilt is so much I would expect the bridge height of the c and a strings assuming no distortion of the body) to be practically identical. Is that correct? I'm asking because I think I've only once in my life seen a cello that had sort of the same height for c and a strings, and I thought it was a mistake. I'm wondering wether this is something that is not done in Europe? I am a professional Player, by the way, so I do have some experience what cello is concerned...
  20. Thanks everyone for helping me understand this better. @Jerry Pasewicz from your last sentence I take it, there are indeed two kinds of ew York neck reset, meaning the name refers to two different practises at the same time, the one being the neck pull back and shim type, the other the more comprehensive one you Mention here, which seems to me to be nothing else but a "proper" reset, with all the necessary Adjustments (which I take it may include a clavette, a shim under the fingerboard for adding poiriette, possibly even a new neck or top block, if the situation requires it?). Tha
  21. Thank you all for clearing that up! Glad to see it was my understanding that was correct. But a question remains from the conversation we had. The person I was taking to maintained that, for Cellos, it had to do with increasing neck overstand and increasing the projection of the a string relatively to the c string, so that the bridge would become more "centrered", equal in height for a and c strings. The idea behind this is that it would increase the load taken by the bass bar and decrease the load taken by the sound post (I find this unlikely). Supposedly this was developed by Morel. I'
  22. Recently I had a conversation with a fellow cellist and the Topic of neck reset came up. It turmed out, the other Player had a very different understanding of what the famed "new York neck reset" (I'm not even sure that is the way to call it correctly.) is, than I did. So I'm hoping to improve my undestanding of it. Can anyone comment on what this entails and why it is done, especially on Cellos (but info on violins is great too!). Thank you!
  23. I'm only an Amateur, and everyone here is really negative About your chances of repairing it. I don't really undertand why. All cracks look Pretty clean to me, so should be relatively easy to glue, but I'd think the bass does need to be taken apart almost completely, and all old repairs must be undone. I would not be surspsised however, if after cleaning it up (assuming it is all hide glue thatwas used), the cracks will be not that hard to glue together. They all seem to me like they are due to shrinkage of the top and back, which was under stress because the ribs and bracing didn't shrink alo
  24. Stahlhammer are basically the same Thing, but they aren't what they used to be. Now they are made with carbon fibre rods, which may or may not sound as good as the old model. There are definite Advantages to this type of end pin. Personally, what I liked a lot when using it was that, because the pivoting point is closer to the Player, there is less weight on the chest of the Player than with a conventional end pin. I also liked the increased stability, as the pin is not so much prone to bouncing. So generally it makes playing the cello feel a lot easier, and as you know, such psychologic
  25. Slightly dampen the inside, place it on a flat surface, place a weight just heavy enough to make the edges come down to the surface right on the highest part of the arch. Wait for two days. Every time I've seen such heavy distortion, it was with backs made of one piece, especially with unevenly figured wood. Joined plates seem more stable. Can anyone corroborate that impression?
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